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Nick's avatar

Paid for, not supplied, was the essence of (Tory MP for Croydon) Sir Henry Willink's recommendation when he wrote his report for Beveridge in 1944. But Nye Bevan opted for socialism, a tragic mistake. The population have been hoodwinked these past 80-odd years.

Andrew Douglas's avatar

Importing many thousands of people with obscure diseases, genetic conditions and customs (cousin marriage) while exporting healthy youngsters in search of better opportunities and a less crushing tax burden can’t be helping.

Tim Hammond's avatar

This book is very good on the problems, even of a little Leftie:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Age-Diagnosis-Overdiagnosis-Epidemic-BESTSELLER/dp/1399727664

One example from the US she quotes is first the creation of "pre-diabetes" as a diagnosis and then a few years later, arbitrarily reducing the level of blood sugar to be diagnosed. This made 2-3 more Americans "ill" without any justification - many of them poor/immigrants because South Asians and other ethnicities are more susceptible to high blood sugar. I wonder why that was done?

Paul Cassidy's avatar

The role of the State in most (not all) things, but certainly health and education, should be limited to ensuring that lack of money doesn’t limit anyone’s access. Provision of schools and hospitals? Definitely not!

As I never tire of saying, imagine the counterfactual today if Attlee had supplemented his Blessed Nationalised Health Service with a NFS. Well, food is a necessity like health isn’t it?

Tim Hammond's avatar

The numbers are just fictitious. They are based mainly on obesity and mental health being actual morbidities. It is those that drive the UK's fall where the comparators have not declined. And logically the NHS cannot be responsible: it doesn't create morbidity (well...) and it doesn't really cure morbidities either, particularly past 60. Because of significantly increased screening, it does now find a lot more morbidities however. And reducing the levels of things like cholesterol that are classified as normal increases morbidity even though those people feel perfectly fine. Essentially we are just overdiagnosing, as longevity proves.